Does Tim Bolen think there's a Nazi behind every scientific tree
This is a collection of e-mails sent to Tim Bolen or from Tim Bolen in regard to various issues. The e-mails are his exact words. The only editing that was done was to delete any repeat references to previous posts.
From: "healthbase"
To: "Laurie Forbes" ,
"healthfraud" ,
"Stanley Polanski" ,
"JoAnne Schmitz"
Subject: [healthfraud] Tim Bolen 2
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:16:30 -0800
More on Tim Bolen and what he dabbles with:
PRESS RELEASE
Attn: Health Editor
SINAIKO CASE "SURPRISE"
The Medical Board Will Look Again!
http://www.legalfund.org/pr_nov18.html
http://www.legalfund.org/story.html
http://www.treatmentchoice.com/pr_nov18.html
The Progress in Medicine Foundation
The Medical Defense Fund
http://www.legalfund.org/indexx.html
A decision that chills the frontiers of medicine
http://www.treatmentchoice.com/sacbee.html
What is EPD? *
Enzyme Potentiated Desensitization (EPD) is an allergy treatment
http://www.legalfund.org/pimf_index.html
This is not a subject that personally interests me, but just thought that
you might be interested.
Paul Lee, PT
Denmark
healthbase@post.tele.dk
Subject: [healthfraud] Lible
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:31:24 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Healthfraud List'"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Moran [mailto:pjmoran@gil.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, 14 November 1999 12:24
> To: Tim Bolen
> Cc: Healthfraud
> Subject: [healthfraud] RE: Lible
>
> > Could we get your address for legal service? I know
> > how eager you are to put your views forward. My
> > recommendation to the Clark team is that we let you
> > defend your statements in Superior Court in San Diego,
> > CA, Dr. Clark's place of business.
> Dr Peter J Moran MB BS BSc(Med) FRCS FRACS
> 14-16 limestone St
> Ipswich
> Queensland
> Australia
Hey, wait a sec, I protest. It would be a financial hardship for either
Peter to come to San Diego to call Clark a quack. Therefore, on behalf of
both myself, Peter^2, and anyone else who cares to throw their name behind
me, I publicly state MY opinion that Clark is a quack. I live near Los
Angeles and would welcome the chance to discuss both her ridiculous ideas,
her lack of pertinent education, and her shoddy excuse for evidence in
beautiful San Diego. Heck, I'd welcome the chance to get out of the office.
Please advise me as soon as possible when you would like me to testify, as I
will schedule a concurrent tour of the Ruben H. Fleet Museum and Science
Center.
_____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Lible
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:43:19 -0800
From:
To: ,
In a message dated 11/17/99 12:49:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lauren@teachspace.org writes:
Hey, wait a sec, I protest. It would be a financial hardship for either
Peter to come to San Diego to call Clark a quack. Therefore, on behalf of
both myself, Peter^2, and anyone else who cares to throw their name behind
me, I publicly state MY opinion that Clark is a quack.
I throw my hat into that ring. If she walks like a duck, has webbed feet,
and flies south at the first hint of trouble, then she must be a quack.
Kevin McHugh
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Lible
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:47:16 -0800
From: "John Stone"
To:
CC: "'Healthfraud List'"
References: 1
Lauren Eve Pomerantz wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Moran [mailto:pjmoran@gil.com.au]
> > Sent: Sunday, 14 November 1999 12:24
> > To: Tim Bolen
> > Cc: Healthfraud
> > Subject: [healthfraud] RE: Lible
> >
> > > Could we get your address for legal service? I know
> > > how eager you are to put your views forward. My
> > > recommendation to the Clark team is that we let you
> > > defend your statements in Superior Court in San Diego,
> > > CA, Dr. Clark's place of business.
>
> > Dr Peter J Moran MB BS BSc(Med) FRCS FRACS
> > 14-16 limestone St
> > Ipswich
> > Queensland
> > Australia
>
> Hey, wait a sec, I protest. It would be a financial hardship for either
> Peter to come to San Diego to call Clark a quack. Therefore, on behalf of
> both myself, Peter^2, and anyone else who cares to throw their name behind
> me, I publicly state MY opinion that Clark is a quack. I live near Los
> Angeles and would welcome the chance to discuss both her ridiculous ideas,
> her lack of pertinent education, and her shoddy excuse for evidence in
> beautiful San Diego. Heck, I'd welcome the chance to get out of the
office.
>
> Please advise me as soon as possible when you would like me to testify, as
I
> will schedule a concurrent tour of the Ruben H. Fleet Museum and Science
> Center.
Ohhh ... I want in on this too ... Clark is a quack ... I am in Springfield,
MO
... if you want to come here your can visit, (logically), Bass Pro Shop's
Dead
Animal Museam, and something else dead around these parts ... the Lawrence
Welk
Theater.
Subject: See attached E-Mail
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:06:40 -0800
From: "Tim Bolen"
To:
Jennifer:
I'm a consultant for the Hulda Clark campaign. One of
my assignments is to determine who exactly a group
that calls itself the "Quackbusters" are, and who they
represent. The "quackbusters" are notorious in the
health world for trashing "alternative medicine."
They, in fact, attacked, and still attack, two-time
Nobel prize winner Linus Pauling. They maintain a
"hit list." Frankly, they lack basic credibility.
Attached is an E-Mail from your Lauren Eve Pomerantz,
Program Coordinator, that really disturbs us. It
seems to infer that Ms. Pomerantz is, in fact, writing
on your group's behalf. I suggest caution...
I suggest, that if your group is a 501 C(3) that you
notify your board of Ms. Pomerantz's actions,
immediately.
I also suggest that you make one of your board members
available for a telephone conversation with one of Dr.
Clark's supporter's (an astronaut) that recently
sponsored her for the top award at the tenth annual
forum of the International Asociation of New Science
in Fort Collins, Colorado.
If Ms. Pomerantz wants to speak out on her own behalf,
citing her own opinion, that's the American way. If
she speaks on your group's behalf, that's something
different. We'll need to clarify this point...
Thank You...
Tim Bolen
The Clark team are reasonable people
#7
Subject: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:58:55 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Healthfraud List'"
Hey gang, Tim Bolen apparently read my e-mail on the list. He went to our
Web site, tracked down the name of our office manager, and tried to get me
in trouble. Fortunately for me, CSSC is a loosely structured organization
about halfway between anarchy and mob violence. :)
Here's my response (his letter to Jen follows).
_____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
__________________
Mr. Bolen,
I have been forwarded a message that you sent to Jennifer Gilcrist regarding
my recent posting to a mailing list. I hope you don't mind that I address
your concerns personally.
1. The California Space and Science Center is not a 501 (c) 3. We are a
group of volunteers. Notice that on our Website (which I presume you have
visited as Jennifer is not active on the healthfraud list) we do not solicit
for donations, as we cannot accept them. We do solicit corporations for
"gifts" of discarded promotional materials which we distribute to teachers
and other educators, but we make no bones about the fact that we are not a
non-profit and such gifts are not tax deductible. We can't afford to be a
non-profit. Filing all that paperwork costs money. Our expenses run under
a thousand dollars a year, most for our Website, our domain name, and
photocopying expenses for the annual Greater Los Angeles Science Teacher's
Association meeting. We pay no salaries.
2. We don't have a board. Boards seem so pointless when there isn't any
money to administrate. You could talk to our Sergeant at Arms. We are
fortunate enough to have a real sergeant holding the position. He is in
ROTC at Montclair High School. We have assorted volunteers who might be
willing to talk to you. Does it matter if the volunteer has graduated high
school? We are famous for our teenage volunteers.
3. As programs coordinator, I "outrank" Jennifer. Well, we don't exactly
have ranks, but as I am the Webmistress, the exhibit designer, the primary
source of funds, the only volunteer who is on the Speaker's Bureau at Boeing
and the Planetary Society, and the owner of the van we use to transport
exhibits, I outrank everyone. The only reason I am not "director" or some
such is that I prefer to have a title that describes what I do.
4. It's hard to get people around here to listen to me when I talk about
quackery; there's only so much the ordinary person can listen to before they
tune you out. As anti-vaccination propaganda or the inability of the FDA to
regulate "dietary supplements" is good for a half hour rant on my part, the
others have sort of given up the concept of having a normal conversation on
certain subjects. But when I explained that Hulda Clark thinks that cancer
is caused by parasites that no one else sees, I got a good chuckle from
them. So I guess if we had a board, they'd be more amused than concerned,
too.
5. So, you have an astronaut who supports Ms. Clark, hmm? Would that be
the astronaut who back in the 70s was speaking in support of a theory that
sub-atomic matter was constantly falling to the earth (in violation of the
Michelson-Morley experiment) and that the similarity of the African and
South American coastlines was not due to plate tectonics but to the fact
that this sub-atomic matter had, over the years, accreted to the Earth and
increased its size, pushing the continents apart like spots painted on the
surface of a balloon? Or the one who spent the 70s looking for Noah's Ark?
By definition, legally, an astronaut is anyone who has traveled higher than
50 miles above the Earth. Sally Ride, with a Ph.D. in physics, is an
astronaut. So is Neil Armstrong, aeronautical engineer. So is Jake Garn,
U.S. Senator. Being an astronaut does not guarantee that one is a scientist
or has training in the basic sciences. Saying that unnamed astronauts
support Ms. Clark is a) meaningless, and b) an obvious attempt to appeal to
authority. I am generally suspicious of things which must be appealed to
authority, especially unrelated authorities. Now, if a famous physician or
epidemiologist agreed with Clark, that might be important. The support of a
senator or even an engineer is not.
In Stephen's Guide to Logical Fallacies,
http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/toc.htm, both the Appeal to
Authority (when the authority is not an expert in the field) and the
Anonymous Authority are cited.
4. There is another logical fallacy called the error of division. We make
this error when we assume that the properties of the group apply to each
member of the group. My favourite example of this fallacy is:
A. Native Americans are disappearing.
B. This man is a Native American.
C. Therefore this man is disappearing.
I bring this up because it is important to remember that brilliant people
often have very stupid ideas. Intelligence does not make one perfect, and a
person's having had one brilliant idea does not mean that his or her next
idea will not be moronic. It is well documented, for example, that Isaac
Newton, who developed the Theory of Gravity, wrote Principia Mathematica,
and formulated the three laws of motion spent much of his time investigating
alchemy and contemplating whether the "morning" knowledge of angels was
different from their "evening" knowledge.
Given that the genius Newton wasted his time in such pursuits, why is it so
difficult to believe that Linus Pauling could have some brilliant ideas,
Nobel prize-worthy ideas even, about chemistry and combine that with
totally-off-the-wall and experimentally disproven theories about the
beneficial effects of vitamin C?
5. For the record, I am not a member of any group which calls itself
"Quackbusters." I know of no such group. I am an active participant in a
discussion list on healthfraud and quackery. I have attended some
presentations on the subject. Of course, I cannot speak to the credibility
of the members of a group of which I am not aware, but the people whom I do
know who speak out against healthfraud and people like Ms. Clark have a
great deal of credibility. That discussion list, for example, is frequently
cited by knowledgeable, reasonable people as an excellent source of
information. The only people who seem to criticize the list and its
sponsors are those with an emotional (e.g., "I've wasted 20 years of my life
at the acupuncturist?") or financial interest in promoting quackery.
6. On the other hand, sir, YOU lack credibility as an official voice for
Ms. Clark when you fail to attach the message your e-mail claims to include.
Oh, we have all pressed the send key before we correct some typo or add some
attachment, but we generally follow our error with the correct version and
apologies.
_____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Bolen [mailto:jurimed@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 1999 13:07
> To: Jennifer@teachspace.org
> Subject: attached E-Mail
>
>
>
> Jennifer:
>
> I'm a consultant for the Hulda Clark campaign. One of
> my assignments is to determine who exactly a group
> that calls itself the "Quackbusters" are, and who they
> represent. The "quackbusters" are notorious in the
> health world for trashing "alternative medicine."
> They, in fact, attacked, and still attack, two-time
> Nobel prize winner Linus Pauling. They maintain a
> "hit list." Frankly, they lack basic credibility.
>
> Attached is an E-Mail from your Lauren Eve Pomerantz,
> Program Coordinator, that really disturbs us. It
> seems to infer that Ms. Pomerantz is, in fact, writing
> on your group's behalf. I suggest caution...
>
> I suggest, that if your group is a 501 C(3) that you
> notify your board of Ms. Pomerantz's actions,
> immediately.
>
> I also suggest that you make one of your board members
> available for a telephone conversation with one of Dr.
> Clark's supporter's (an astronaut) that recently
> sponsored her for the top award at the tenth annual
> forum of the International Asociation of New Science
> in Fort Collins, Colorado.
>
> If Ms. Pomerantz wants to speak out on her own behalf,
> citing her own opinion, that's the American way. If
> she speaks on your group's behalf, that's something
> different. We'll need to clarify this point...
>
> Thank You...
>
> Tim Bolen
>
>
>
> The Clark team are reasonable people
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
#8
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:40:10 -0800
From: "Fay Franklin"
Organization: Yes! Wealth!.net
To: ,
References: 1
Lauren,
He is not on the list, your post was forwarded to him by someone on the
list. He is a Medical Media Expert, so he knows the business of getting
to the root of matters. And he can get to the root of matters.
I did an internet search, made a few calls and determined that this
group you say you represent is basically an "in the suitcase group",
meaning it has nothing, is run out of a hole in the wall, and is
basically run out of a briefcase. So I am kind of curious why in the
world you would want to purport to the world that it has any importance
whatsoever? You make believe that it has some importance. I found no
indication that it does. I have found no membership list, no balance
sheet as to assets. I have an open mind, where are those references
available? I am very open to being proven wrong. Provide me the
documents, please, or tell me where I can go get them. I also know a
number of former astronauts who have never heard of the group. Please
forward information to legitimize the group.
Thank you.
Fay
#9
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:29:13 -0800
From: "Paul Bernhardt"
To: "Healthfraud"
Lauren Eve Pomerantz wrote on 11/17/99 10:58 PM:
>6. On the other hand, sir, YOU lack credibility as an official voice for
>Ms. Clark when you fail to attach the message your e-mail claims to
include.
>Oh, we have all pressed the send key before we correct some typo or add
some
>attachment, but we generally follow our error with the correct version and
>apologies.
His credibility suffers also when his use of language is so awkward:
> > I suggest, that if your group is a 501 C(3) that you
> > notify your board of Ms. Pomerantz's actions,
> > immediately.
Paul
#10
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:15:33 -0800
From: "Rosalind Dalefield"
To: "lauren" , "'Healthfraud List'"
I think it is quite clear from Tim Bolen's message to Jennifer Gilchrist
that the astronaut in question is not a human being. Perhaps it is a dog
or a chimpanzee?
Tim Bolen wrote:
>>
>> I also suggest that you make one of your board members
>> available for a telephone conversation with one of Dr.
>> Clark's supporter's (an astronaut) that recently
>> sponsored her for the top award at the tenth annual
>> forum of the International Asociation of New Science
>> in Fort Collins, Colorado.
>>
If the astronaut was human, Tim Bolen should have written "...WHO recently
sponsored her..." (Capitals mine).
Cheers,
Rosalind
#11
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:44:36 -0800
From: "Elio Spinello"
To: , "'Healthfraud List'"
GREAT response!
Elio Spinello
++++====++++====++++====++++====++++====++++====++++====++++====++++====++++
Elio Spinello, MPH
Department of Health Sciences
California State University, Northridge
18111 Nordhoff St.
Northridge, CA 91330-8285
Voice: 818-831-7607 Fax: 831-9078
elio.spinello@csun.edu
Home Page: http://www.csun.edu/~hchsc018
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lauren Eve Pomerantz
To: 'Healthfraud List'
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 10:25 PM
Subject: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
>Hey gang, Tim Bolen apparently read my e-mail on the list. He went to our
>Web site, tracked down the name of our office manager, and tried to get me
>in trouble. Fortunately for me, CSSC is a loosely structured organization
>about halfway between anarchy and mob violence. :)
>
>Here's my response (his letter to Jen follows).
>_____________________________________________________________
>Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
>Programs Coordinator
>California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
>
>
>__________________
>
>Mr. Bolen,
>
>I have been forwarded a message that you sent to Jennifer Gilcrist
regarding
>my recent posting to a mailing list. I hope you don't mind that I address
>your concerns personally.
>
>1. The California Space and Science Center is not a 501 (c) 3. We are a
>group of volunteers. Notice that on our Website (which I presume you have
>visited as Jennifer is not active on the healthfraud list) we do not
solicit
>for donations, as we cannot accept them. We do solicit corporations for
>"gifts" of discarded promotional materials which we distribute to teachers
>and other educators, but we make no bones about the fact that we are not a
>non-profit and such gifts are not tax deductible. We can't afford to be a
>non-profit. Filing all that paperwork costs money. Our expenses run under
>a thousand dollars a year, most for our Website, our domain name, and
>photocopying expenses for the annual Greater Los Angeles Science Teacher's
>Association meeting. We pay no salaries.
>
>2. We don't have a board. Boards seem so pointless when there isn't any
>money to administrate. You could talk to our Sergeant at Arms. We are
>fortunate enough to have a real sergeant holding the position. He is in
>ROTC at Montclair High School. We have assorted volunteers who might be
>willing to talk to you. Does it matter if the volunteer has graduated high
>school? We are famous for our teenage volunteers.
>
>3. As programs coordinator, I "outrank" Jennifer. Well, we don't exactly
>have ranks, but as I am the Webmistress, the exhibit designer, the primary
>source of funds, the only volunteer who is on the Speaker's Bureau at
Boeing
>and the Planetary Society, and the owner of the van we use to transport
>exhibits, I outrank everyone. The only reason I am not "director" or some
>such is that I prefer to have a title that describes what I do.
>
>4. It's hard to get people around here to listen to me when I talk about
>quackery; there's only so much the ordinary person can listen to before
they
>tune you out. As anti-vaccination propaganda or the inability of the FDA
to
>regulate "dietary supplements" is good for a half hour rant on my part, the
>others have sort of given up the concept of having a normal conversation on
>certain subjects. But when I explained that Hulda Clark thinks that cancer
>is caused by parasites that no one else sees, I got a good chuckle from
>them. So I guess if we had a board, they'd be more amused than concerned,
>too.
>
>5. So, you have an astronaut who supports Ms. Clark, hmm? Would that be
>the astronaut who back in the 70s was speaking in support of a theory that
>sub-atomic matter was constantly falling to the earth (in violation of the
>Michelson-Morley experiment) and that the similarity of the African and
>South American coastlines was not due to plate tectonics but to the fact
>that this sub-atomic matter had, over the years, accreted to the Earth and
>increased its size, pushing the continents apart like spots painted on the
>surface of a balloon? Or the one who spent the 70s looking for Noah's Ark?
>By definition, legally, an astronaut is anyone who has traveled higher than
>50 miles above the Earth. Sally Ride, with a Ph.D. in physics, is an
>astronaut. So is Neil Armstrong, aeronautical engineer. So is Jake Garn,
>U.S. Senator. Being an astronaut does not guarantee that one is a
scientist
>or has training in the basic sciences. Saying that unnamed astronauts
>support Ms. Clark is a) meaningless, and b) an obvious attempt to appeal to
>authority. I am generally suspicious of things which must be appealed to
>authority, especially unrelated authorities. Now, if a famous physician or
>epidemiologist agreed with Clark, that might be important. The support of
a
>senator or even an engineer is not.
>
>In Stephen's Guide to Logical Fallacies,
>http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/toc.htm, both the Appeal to
>Authority (when the authority is not an expert in the field) and the
>Anonymous Authority are cited.
>
>4. There is another logical fallacy called the error of division. We make
>this error when we assume that the properties of the group apply to each
>member of the group. My favourite example of this fallacy is:
>
> A. Native Americans are disappearing.
> B. This man is a Native American.
> C. Therefore this man is disappearing.
>
>I bring this up because it is important to remember that brilliant people
>often have very stupid ideas. Intelligence does not make one perfect, and
a
>person's having had one brilliant idea does not mean that his or her next
>idea will not be moronic. It is well documented, for example, that Isaac
>Newton, who developed the Theory of Gravity, wrote Principia Mathematica,
>and formulated the three laws of motion spent much of his time
investigating
>alchemy and contemplating whether the "morning" knowledge of angels was
>different from their "evening" knowledge.
>
>Given that the genius Newton wasted his time in such pursuits, why is it so
>difficult to believe that Linus Pauling could have some brilliant ideas,
>Nobel prize-worthy ideas even, about chemistry and combine that with
>totally-off-the-wall and experimentally disproven theories about the
>beneficial effects of vitamin C?
>
>5. For the record, I am not a member of any group which calls itself
>"Quackbusters." I know of no such group. I am an active participant in a
>discussion list on healthfraud and quackery. I have attended some
>presentations on the subject. Of course, I cannot speak to the credibility
>of the members of a group of which I am not aware, but the people whom I do
>know who speak out against healthfraud and people like Ms. Clark have a
>great deal of credibility. That discussion list, for example, is
frequently
>cited by knowledgeable, reasonable people as an excellent source of
>information. The only people who seem to criticize the list and its
>sponsors are those with an emotional (e.g., "I've wasted 20 years of my
life
>at the acupuncturist?") or financial interest in promoting quackery.
>
>6. On the other hand, sir, YOU lack credibility as an official voice for
>Ms. Clark when you fail to attach the message your e-mail claims to
include.
>Oh, we have all pressed the send key before we correct some typo or add
some
>attachment, but we generally follow our error with the correct version and
>apologies.
>_____________________________________________________________
>Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
>Programs Coordinator
>California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#12
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:22:11 -0800
From: "Jon Keller"
Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80)
To:
This is the second or third time I have seen reference made to Dr. Clark
being given the "new scientist of the year award" in Ft. Collins. As a CO
resident, I have to say that I am somewhat embarrassed by the fact that this
was held in the city of one of the leading science institutions in the
region and just a few miles up the road from where I live. I guess I can't
blame the Holiday Inn, though, for booking a money-making event. At least
it wasn't on the CSU campus.
I went to the web site set up for the conference and now I have to wonder
why this is an honor and why her supporters would think rational people
would find this impressive, unless they hoped no one would actually look.
This group must be filled with Art Bell fanatics...
http://www.newsciences.org/forum99.htm
Some of the featured topics:
Atlantis and Ancient Technology
The Adamantine Particles- a new scientific understanding of reality
The latest research on Sasquatch (Bigfoot)
The Self Aware Universe
A new paradigm in energy and cold fusion update
Scientific basis for extraterrestrial contact
The Latest Insights into Life After Death
And as for the "Cancer Authority" Astronaut, could this be the one?
Brian O'Leary, Ph.D., ex-Apollo Astronaut - Re-Inheriting the
Earth--Scientific Solutions for the New Millenium
Here are some of the minor presentations:
D. Alan Eastwood - Applying UFOmetry
Phyllis Nelson Grau - Education of Galactic/Planet-Ruling Royal Princes and
Princesses
Deborah Lindemann - The Spectrum of Abduction: A Question of Perception
John Paul Oswald - UFO's Are Real - Commentary #10
Margaret Spear - Holographic Psychology
Greg Storozuk - Communicating with Nature, the Dowsing Phenomenon
Phil Thomas - The Cayce Cure For Cancer Animated and Carbon Ash
And I suppose that this sums up the conference...
Wally Johnston - That's A Crazy idea!
What an honor indeed for Dr. Clark!
Jon
#13
Subject: Hello Lauren! Re: Bolen contacts me, too!
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:24:23 -0800
From: "David Lang"
To:
At 09:58 PM 11/17/1999 , you wrote:
>Hey gang, Tim Bolen apparently read my e-mail on the list.
>Here's my response (his letter to Jen follows).
Hi Lauren!
WOW! What an excellent, erudite and eloquent response! I'm saving that one
for inspiration.
Best wishes,
Best regards'
"Uncle" Dave Lang (dave77@emeraldnet.net)
#14
Subject: [healthfraud] Hulda Clark's astronaut
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:05:17 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Healthfraud List'"
CC: "'Tim Bolen'"
> http://www.newsciences.org/forum99.htm
>
Thank you SO MUCH, Jon, for providing that link. I never thought to go and
check out the site.
Mr. Bolen, is Brian O'Leary the "astronaut" who backs Ms. Clark's work?
Then you should know that you and Ms. Clark are being involved in a fraud
and possibly a federal crime.
As I mentioned in my response to your attack, "astronaut" is a term with a
strict legal definition, i.e., a person who has flown more than fifty miles
above the Earth's surface. According to NASA
(http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/app6.html), Dr. Brian
O'Leary (Ph.D. astronomy) is not an astronaut. He was an astronaut
candidate, selected with Group Six in August of 1967, and resigned later
that year. He never flew, and he certainly was not part of any Apollo
mission.
NASA has been quite diligent in prosecuting those who falsely claim to be
astronauts. It is a federal crime to impersonate a astronaut. One
violators was threatened with receiving up to seven years in federal prison
and fines of up to $500,000. Perhaps NASA might be lenient with Dr.
O'Leary's claims that he is an ex-astronaut, as he was actually an astronaut
CANDIDATE. However, his claiming that he was an Apollo astronaut is highly
misleading and probably illegal. Were I you, I would distance myself from
him immediately.
_____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#15
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Hulda Clark's astronaut
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:27:04 -0800
From: "The Textbook League"
To:
References: 1
Lauren:
Regarding your reply to Bolen in the "Hulda Clark's astronaut"
thread: First-rate work! Well done!
Bill Bennetta
#16
Subject: Brian O'Leary
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:43:58 -0800
From: "Robert Tucker"
To:
I'd post this to the list, but I'm not crazy about those kooks
contacting my employer.
In the Arizona Republic, under the headline "Pigeons, Pigs, Killer make
list of wackiest stories for 1993" appeared this interesting tidbit:
Aiming for a higher goal than mere contract negotiations, people
attending the fifth annual
National New Age, Alien Agenda and Cosmic Conspiracies conference put
their collective
psychic powers to the test in September.
They tried to make mental contact with the Mars Observer space probe
that was lost by
NASA on its way to the red planet.
The attempt at the Holiday Inn near Metrocenter was led by former
astronaut trainee
Brian O'Leary, who told his audience to relax, meditate and "send the
loving vibes to the
Mars Observer."
Despite the best efforts of the psychic power practitioners, the probe
remains lost in space.
HA HA HA ! Also, I found several articles where O'Leary was pushing the
"face on Mars" bit. I can send you the complete stories if you'd like.
--
Best regards,
Robert Tucker
#17
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [healthfraud] Hulda Clark's astronaut]
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:39:54 -0800
From: "Tim Bolen"
To:
CC: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
Fay:
Thanks for the tip. I passed "Eva Braun's" E-mail
along to my friends, who will get it to Brian O'
Leary's Attorney.
I can't quite figure out exactly what the forwarded
message about Brian O'Leary is about. It looks as
though this Pomerantz looney(?) is going to have him
arrested(?). Huh? It appears she has created this
false organization for some reason(?).
Don't take this too seriously, Fay, as I have
discovered that, as a group, Barrett's Parrott's bolts
aren't too tight. In my opinion, this group is the
reincarnation of those people that loaded six million
Jews onto box cars in the 30's and 40's - and they are
very proud of their work.
There is the issue of libel, or as in their case
"lible," (meaning they don't even get libel quite
right). But as one of our legal advisers pointed out
their "extent" is limited. The distribution of their
diatribe is like someone confined in the maximum
security pedophile sex crime wing writing a false
statement about a prosecutor who hunts and prosecutes
child molestors, and then posting it on the inside of
the door of the third stall from the right in the
men's room. Yes, it may be libelous, but... only other
pedophiles are going to read it.
Just keep them "stimulated," Fay. These people need
to be angry about something just to keep their bodies
moving. My guess is that by keeping her adrenilane
pumped, Ms. Pomerantz increases her functional IQ up
almost to 80. Her boss down at the bag factory (her
real job)is probably thinking about giving her a
fifteen cent an hour raise. Her fake title probably
gives meaning to her dull life. In her mind "Program
Coordinators" get laid more often than "bag
assemblers."
Fay, think about it. This is the best they got?
What's anybody ever been afraid of?
Tim Bolen
--- Fay Franklin
wrote:
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:26:26 -0800
> From: Lauren Eve Pomerantz
> Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Hulda Clark's astronaut
> To: yesnettv@pacbell.net
> Reply-to: lauren@teachspace.org
>
> Oh, excuse me. With which of the following do you
> have a problem?
>
> 1. Bolen boasts that Clark has received recognition
> from an international
> science society.
>
> 2. Bolen also boasts that Clark has been commended
> by a former astronaut.
>
> 3. The site of said society advertises a program
> including an "ex-Apollo
> astronaut."
>
> 4. Said person is not, in fact, as astronaut, but a
> person who was selected
> for an astronaut training program while the Apollo
> program was going on. In
> fact this person resigned before completing his
> training and before being
> included in a mission as either the flight crew or
> the backup.
>
> 5. Said person is therefore in violation of federal
> law regarding the
> impersonation of federal employees. Previously,
> people who have
> impersonated astronauts have been threatened with
> fines of up to $500,000
> and seven years in jail.
>
> Now, it is possible that the astronaut Mr. Bolen has
> referred to several
> times but has not named, is not, in fact, Dr. Brian
> O'Leary. In this case,
> Bolen and Clark have nothing to fear from
> association with this man.
> However, it is not a rash assumption to assume that
> the unnamed scientific
> society's presenter is the unnamed astronaut, and in
> that case, Clark could
> catch fallout from his prosecution.
>
> By the way, if my assumption is unwarranted, the
> civil thing to do is to
> say, Ms. Pomerantz, you are mistaken; the astronaut
> who backed Ms. Clark's
> work is ___________. I mean, who knows, maybe it is
> Rhea Seddon, an actual
> physician.
>
_____________________________________________________________
> Lauren Eve Pomerantz
> lauren@teachspace.org
> Programs Coordinator
> California Space & Science Center
> http://www.teachspace.org
>
#18
Subject: [healthfraud] Tim's at it again
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:58:37 -0800
From: "Peter Bowditch"
Organization: Gebesse Computer Consultants
To:
I received the following message today from a doctor in Ohio:
> Having read your messages regarding Tim Bolen's attempts at bullying
> people to stop commenting on Hulda Clark and her whacko ideas, would you
> like another entry. Tim has threatened legal action against me and my
> employer.
His name is - you guessed it - Peter! It looks like Tim Bolen is taking
my advice.
........................................................
Peter Bowditch peterb@ratbags.com
"The duped brainwashed ranting bloke" at
The Millenium Project - The fundaments of the 'net
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
990 entries - 1000 by 1/1/2000
#19
Subject: FW: [healthfraud] Tim's at it again
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 06:38:48 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'healthfraud'"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Bowditch [mailto:peterb@gebesse.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 1999 01:59
> To: healthfraud@ssr.com
> Subject: [healthfraud] Tim's at it again
>
>
> I received the following message today from a doctor in Ohio:
>
>> Having read your messages regarding Tim Bolen's attempts
>> at bullying people to stop commenting on Hulda Clark and
>> her whacko ideas, would you like another entry. Tim has
>> threatened legal action against me and my employer.
Well, for the record, Tim Bolen has STILL not bothered to confirm or deny
whether former astronaut candidate Brian O'Leary is the "Apollo Astronaut"
who supports Clark's work.
_____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#20
Subject: [Fwd: Re: FW: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is going to jail]
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:27:23 -0800
From: "John Stone"
To: "Healthfraud List"
I herewith forward a msg from Tim Bolen ... who apparently has "lost
that lovin' feeling" for me. Something that I am sure will keep me up
most of tonight worring about how to get back into his good graces.
Too seldom do we have some real good, laugh out loud, humor about
quacks, shyster lawyers, brain dead anbulance chasing scouts -- but this
one seemed to fit all the catagories.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Tim and Jan Bolen
Subject: Re: FW: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is going to jail
To: Fay Franklin
Fay:
Dump this guy. He's a nobody with nothing important
to say. I can't find anything worth pursuing in his
rhetoric. He's so far down Barrett's food chain he
probably didn't even get a Christmas card...
Find me somebody that can give me data on this
Canadian Polevoy. I want his home address, his
employer, whether he does his internet from his
employer's place of business (deep pockets), arrest
record, assets (if any), and if he has a meeting
schedule posted where we can get him served in the US.
Barrett and his parrotts are finished. Wherever they
go now to testify they are battered senseless. They
have no credibility at all anymore. The opposition
(our people) are waiting for them to show up. The
word is getting out in the industry that the
quackbusters are being laughed at and that to hire
them means "you lose." It's over for their offensive.
They are on the defensive in more places then they
know, in more states than they know. It's over for
them. I expect prosecutions to begin soon. I believe
these people are responsible for the suffering and
deaths of millions of Americans - and so do my
associates.
Our strategy for now is simple - gather information on
their people, their organization, who's paying them,
and then crush them... It'll be a lot of fun.
Keep up the good work.
Tim Bolen
--- Fay Franklin wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stone [SMTP:jstone@sofnet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 7:12 PM
> To: Healthfraud List
> Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is going
> to jail
>
> Well, HI -- right back at'ch'a Fay. Tell 'ya what
> ... why don't you send me the names and addresses of
> not-doctor Clark's attorneys that want to sue me ...
> and yet don't seem to be smart enough to do a
> whowhere search on the web .. and I will be happy to
> package up all the news reports that I have of her
> flukes, parasites,
> medical license information, attorney general's
> complaints and send them along ...
>
> Fay Franklin wrote:
>
> > Hi, John,
> > Please forward to me your address for legal
> service.
> >
> > You, like the other healthfraud guys, did not
> answer one single question that I asked. I feel
> sorry for you, for you know not what you do.
> >
> > Next time you may wish to use a different set of
> criteria to determine your mentors.
> >
> > You made an incorrect supposition in calling me
> one of Dr. Clark's troops. I personally am into
> science, open minds, giving people fair chances.
> You and this group seem to not want anything proven.
> >
> > You got upset when I spoke about "scientific
> honors" Dr. Clark has received. Did you even look
> into what they might be?
> >
> > Why do you call Dr. Clark a criminal? She has not
> been convicted of anything. One is not "criminal"
> until duly convicted of some criminal act. Do you
> realize that it is a criminal act to call people
> things they are not?
> > You call what Dr. Clark is doing dispicable. How
> do you personally know about anything she is
> currently doing? Have you been there and spoken to
> people? Why in the world are you trying to act like
> some expert in this when in reality you know nothing
> about it? Please speak to your handlers. You need
> better training
> > Fay
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Stone [SMTP:jstone@sofnet.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:02 PM
> > To: Healthfraud List
> > Subject: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is
> going to jail
> >
> > As we all know, the now-criminal, not-doctor Clark
> has her troops out
> > monitoring this list ... so here is a response I
> got from one of them
> > .. Fay Franklin ( yesnettv@pacbell.net)
> >
> > I particularly like the part about "scientific
> honors".
> >
> > Oh, and yes Fay ... what she is doing is
> dispicable and criminal. I hope
> > she goes to jail for a long, long time.
> >
> > Are you accusing Dr. Clark of current criminal
> activity? If so, what
> > crimes might she be
> > committing?
> > Since Dr. Clark has not been found guilty of any
> crime, why would you
> > state, "she has not only
> > shown no remorse for her crimes,..." She has not
> been convicted of a
> > crime for which she
> > should show remorse.
> >
> > Because there is a case against her, she is being
> watched like a hawk,
> > her website scrutinized.
> > If she were doing anything wrong, she would have
> been indicted again.
> > She is a brilliant lady.
> > She is only doing what her attorney allows her to
> do. And she keeps
> > getting scientific honors
> > and awards.
> >
> > Where are you getting your information? You seem
> quite ill-informed.
> > You may wish to check on
> > the Indiana statute relating to the case, the
> status of the prosecutor,
> > the status of the
> > judge, the status of the case.
> >
> > Have you personally met with Dr. Clark or her
> clinic? How much personal
> > research have you done
> > into her ideas and protocols?
> > What are your credentials? Why do you think she
> is a criminal?
> > Sincerely,
> > Fay
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Stone [SMTP:jstone@sofnet.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:20 PM
> > To: Kirk Kolas
> > Cc: tpolevoy@healthwatcher.net; Healthfraud
> > Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Latest "Dr."
> Hulda Clark Newsletter
> >
> > I would suggest someone on this list ... including
> me save all these
> > posts
> > . including copies of her webpage to send to the
> prosecutors in her
> > case.
> >
> > That way when she is convicted and comes to a
> sentencing hearing the
> > prosecutors can ask for the maximum because she
> has not only shown no
> > remorse for her crimes, but has, while out on bond
> continued criminal
> > activity.
#21
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: FW: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is going to jail]
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:39:25 -0800
From: "Bill Ross"
To: ,
References:
1
It didn't take long to get a response from Tim Bolen. I ask for proof,
and I ask and ask. And the following reply is what I get.
Tim and Jan Bolen wrote:
> Quackpot:
>
> In response to your poorly written, whining, e-mail...
>
> I'll bet that last week you wrote to the Pope and
> demanded proof of God, right? And the week before
> that you wrote to NASA for proof there is a moon,
> right?
>
> Why don't you write to the UN and demand proof that
> the world is round? Or, why don't you write to the
> internet, and demand proof that there really is a
> world-wide web? Or maybe you should write to your
> mother and ask her...
>
> Gee, what a great organization the NCAHF is. It
> certainly is democratic. It's a place where a house
> painter with a grade school education, and an IQ of
> 52(?), can set himself up as a judge of world renowned
> research scientists, and health humanitarians.
> Congratulations! Long on ego, short on reality.
>
> Go iron your armband, you might get a chance to
> goose-step this weekend.
>
> Quackpot, you're wasting your time. They lied to you.
> There's not going to be a Fourth Reich... and this is
> still America. As I recall, the last time you people
> came forward with your attitude problem, we bombed
> your cities flat (Dresden), and when we hit the beach
> June 6, 1944 it only took us eleven months (May 8,
> 1945) to shake hands with the Russian forces at the
> Elbe river, and you people had been begging for
> surrender terms for months before that. It seems that
> your group was too busy shipping Jews to the ovens to
> come and fight.
>
> You want it your way? Go to Burger King.
>
> Nobody worries about you... (except possibly the
> mothers of small children in your neighborhood?).
>
> Get a life. Get treatment. Can you provide us with
> verifiable proof you haven't been eating lead paint
> chips?
>
> Tim Bolen
>
> --- Bill Ross wrote:
> > Instead of making threats, Clark and company could
> > shut us up fast by giving
> > us proof that Clark has cured advanced cancers, AIDS
> > and other deadly
> > diseases as she claims. Most people that support
> > Clark however seem to feel
> > she helped them overcome allergies, chronic fatigue
> > syndrome and other
> > milder afflictions.
> >
> > I have asked over and over for proof, and they don't
> > seem to have it. I
> > want to know where all these people who have been
> > rescued from death's
> > doorstep are hiding. I would think they'd be
> > singing the praises of Hulda
> > Clark from the rooftops, and it would be hard to get
> > away from them. Why
> > the Clark supporters fail to see this is hard to
> > understand. They always
> > seem to have some flimsy excuse for why Clark's
> > methods fail, or why the
> > names of her so-called successes are top secret.
> >
> > Why don't the Clark supporters get a few of the
> > Clark miracles to respond to
> > us on this list? We'll find out the details of
> > their cases, verify them for
> > accuracy, and when we see how incredibly important
> > Clark's discoveries are
> > -- well, we'll become Clark promoters, cure much of
> > the world of all
> > diseases and become filthy rich with a clear
> > conscience.
> >
> > Where's the verifiable proof Tim Bolen?
> >
> > Bill Ross
#22
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: FW: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is going to jail]
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:37:25 -0800
From: "Peter Moran"
To: "Bill Ross" , ,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Ross [mailto:rossviva@erinet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2000 12:39
>
> It didn't take long to get a response from Tim Bolen. I ask for proof,
> and I ask and ask. And the following reply is what I get.
>
> Tim and Jan Bolen wrote:
>
> > Quackpot:
> >
> > In response to your poorly written, whining, e-mail...
> >
> > I'll bet that last week you wrote to the Pope and
> > demanded proof of God, right? And the week before
> > that you wrote to NASA for proof there is a moon,
> > right?
> >
> > Why don't you write to the UN and demand proof that
> > the world is round? Or, why don't you write to the
> > internet, and demand proof that there really is a
> > world-wide web? Or maybe you should write to your
> > mother and ask her...
Remaining rant snipped----
Tim Bolen demonstrating how he excels as bastardry. What makes this so
beastly is this -- Bill was too polite to point out that his mother died of
breast cancer, and that he began researching alternative cancer treatments
initially for her benefit, and that he has been on a genuine search since to
find out if there are any effective alternative treatments out there. Of
all of us he is the most open-minded and sincere in such exploration.
Has anyone ever seen such an appallingly nasty and irrelevant response to a
reasonable request? If Hulda's treatment is "the cure for all cancers" why
isn't such evidence as Bill requests available? What is Tim Bolen afraid
of, to resort to such tactics?
I have seen most of the newsletters that her organisation puts out and this
contains such laughable anecdotes that the propeller and beanie analogy of
Bandanes is sooo apt. Where IS the data?
Do you still have MY address Tim? Are you coming for me soon? Is the
threat of legal action against anyone exposing your quack client having the
desired effect, or is the list of candidates getting unmanageable? Your
recent emails quoted here seem somewhat frantic, but I guess Hulda can pay
well.
Peter Moran
#23
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: FW: [healthfraud] Hooray -- Clark is going to jail]
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:03:02 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
(yawn)
--- Lauren Eve Pomerantz
wrote:
> I'd show that line about "Nobody worries about
> you..." to a lawyer, Bill. I
> mean, perhaps all he is suggesting is that you hand
> out too many apples and
> the little dears aren't hungry at dinner time, but
> it sure looks like an
> accusation of child molestation to me.
>
> (Aside to Mr. Bolen: calling someone a "quack" is
> not an actionable offense
> in California, but calling someone a child molester
> in print is libel in
> every state in the country.)
>
> Lauren Eve Pomerantz
> lauren@teachspace.org
> Programs Coordinator
> California Space & Science Center
> http://www.teachspace.org
#24
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:33:25 -0800
From: "Fay Franklin"
Organization: Yes! Wealth!.net
To: ,
References:
1
Lauren,
It is obvious you did no research on Dr. B. prior to doing your post.
Go to his website. There is a link to a "patient owned" website where
lots of definitive positive testimonials are posted, along with
statements about lab results. You are free to contact any of the
patients - they don't hide! His protocol works non-toxically for
certain types of CA. The terminal cancer goes away...zip...period...it
goes away and stays gone.
The US FDA has granted him numerous IND numbers to test his protocol
massively. It took many years and many millions in legal fees, but he
has beat every "quack" related charge in court, even the insane "mail
fraud" ones.
It seems that you have selected one more researcher to denigrate without
looking into anything. I hope he sues you for libel and slander. Your
NCAHF guys won't be able to come to your aid as "expert witnesses".
Apparently the legal community has figured out that a PhD in education
is not a very good expert witness in nutrition. Etc. Etc. Etc.
The title of the list should read, "We're for Health Fraud!"
Take care!
Fay
#25
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:19:53 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To:
You need a new dictionary. First of all, nothing I wrote is slander because
slander has to be spoken. And secondly, nothing I wrote was libelous.
Forgive me for not having gone to Dr. Burzynski's Web site before. I've
only read articles on him in the newspapers and magazines and seen material
about him on television news and news magazines. I prefer my factual
information to come from, or be filtered through, disinterested parties.
However, on your recommendation, I did go to his Web site and looked around.
About a dozen stories. I read a few, which all ended in positive outcome
except for one. Great. Maybe the stuff works, in which case the FDA trials
will surely show a positive result and his therapy can be incorporated into
the standard of care. I have to admit that from what I know about cancer
(limited, I admit), something like what he is doing should work (i.e., there
should be a chemical defense against cancer since cancer is a biological
activity). The question is, is his therapy the one that should be out
there. I don't know, and that is why we have such things as clinical
trials.
But I didn't see what I asked for in my original post. There ought to be
articles in the newspapers that say, "Do you remember three years ago when
little Mary Doe was diagnosed with cancer and we ran that huge series of
articles about her going to Texas for this unorthodox therapy? Well the
stuff worked, and today she returns home where her parents will try to pick
up the pieces of the life they abandoned in the search for a cure for their
daughter. They gave up their jobs and sold their home to pay for this
therapy, buy they consider it a small price to pay for their daughter's
life. On Saturday, the mayor will host a Welcome Home Mary concert in
Veteran's Park, where the Does will officially thank those people who helped
raise the money to pay for Mary's treatment and encourage people to lobby
their insurance providers to cover the cost of Burzynski's therapy." There
ought to be articles like that, but I see none.
___________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#26
Subject: Re: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:15:14 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
CC:
Fay:
Behind the scenes in California... My opinion
Do you know how hard it was to get that article in the
Sacramento Bee? It is a huge victory for us. The
tide has turned completely - and it's been a lot of
work. Every legislator in California reads the Bee.
California was the battle Barrett needed to win. They
did every trick the had in their bag, pulled in every
IOU - and none of it worked. We're picking up all the
marbles.
We're replacing fourteen of the eighteen Medical Board
members with our own people. Barrett's lost his
number one thug, Alan Shumaker, as of June 1, 2000.
Shumaker, current president of that sedititious group
"The Federation of States Medical Boards," is in a
panic. He's trying to get a policy passed at the
February Med Board meeting outlawing alternative
medicine.
Yeah, right.
I love it when a plan comes together...
I'm trying to convince the team in California that
when we have a new Board we need to hunt the
quackbusters with it - and use those prosecutions to
repair the damage the NCAHF has done to Californians -
nobody is saying "no" to me.
Nationally, we're doing even better... The message is
the same - indict - prosecute, indict - prosecute...
Nuremberg 2000.
Tim Bolen
>
#27
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:46:49 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Tim and Jan Bolen'" ,
Hello again,
If you are going to include me on these things, would you kindly tell me
what you are talking about.
I went to the Sacramento Bee site. I couldn't find anything particularly
relevant when searching for "medicine," "alternative," "medical,"
"shumaker," "barrett," "jurimed," "bolen," "burzynski," or "hulda." I'm
sure you intended that I read this article you worked so hard to get in the
Bee.
___________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#28
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:42:30 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
CC:
Quackpot:
It certainly is no surprise that you can't figure out
what I'm talking about. It seems to be a
characteristic of your entire group that reality,
right in front of you, escapes your vision.
I'm talking about the politics of medicine. You don't
operate at a high enough level in Barrett's
organization, apparently, to be told what's going on.
Or is it that he just doesn't want his troops
demoralized?
Wake up. Open your eyes, the sun is shining.
Tim Bolen
--- Lauren Eve Pomerantz
wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> If you are going to include me on these things,
> would you kindly tell me
> what you are talking about.
>
> I went to the Sacramento Bee site. I couldn't find
> anything particularly
> relevant when searching for "medicine,"
> "alternative," "medical,"
> "shumaker," "barrett," "jurimed," "bolen,"
> "burzynski," or "hulda." I'm
> sure you intended that I read this article you
> worked so hard to get in the
> Bee.
>
____________________________________________________________
> Lauren Eve Pomerantz
> lauren@teachspace.org
> Programs Coordinator
> California Space & Science Center
> http://www.teachspace.org
>
#29
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:04:09 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Tim and Jan Bolen'"
Let's try again. Your previous post to Fay cc'd to me said that you had
worked very hard to get an article in the Sacramento Bee. You did not,
however, mention the specific subject of the article. I went to the Web
site of the Sacramento Bee and searched for an article on several of the
topics that you and Fay and I have been talking to me about lately. I can't
find any relevant articles posted within the past month.
Fay is always on my case about not doing proper research, so I would like to
read this article. Would you please tell me specifically what the subject
was (or the URL of the article on their Web site) so that I can read it?
By the way, I'm a reader of and contributor to the Healthfraud mailing list.
I'm not a member of the NCAHF.
____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#30
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:59:25 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
CC:
Dismally uninformed quackpot:
Try getting into reality. Read my friend Jim Carter's
book available in books stores nationally, or from
amazon.com - "Racketeering In Medicine - The
Suppression of Alternatives," by James P. Carter,
M.D., Dr.P,H., Hampton Roads Publishing...
It's a good start in your education.
Not exactly the sort of thing the NCAHF wants their
troops to have on their bookshelf.
When you read it, and ask questions, I predict you'll
be tossed off the healthfraud list.
Do you really believe that 56.5% of the American
health dollar, all "disposable income," would be spent
on alternative health practices because Americans are
stupid, and are being healthfrauded? Wake up.
Tim Bolen
--- Lauren Eve Pomerantz
wrote:
> Let's try again. Your previous post to Fay cc'd to
> me said that you had
> worked very hard to get an article in the Sacramento
> Bee. You did not,
> however, mention the specific subject of the
> article. I went to the Web
>>> SNIP---
___________________________________________________________
> Lauren Eve Pomerantz
> lauren@teachspace.org
> Programs Coordinator
> California Space & Science Center
> http://www.teachspace.org
>
#31
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:33:03 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Tim and Jan Bolen'"
You're not being very helpful here. I'm asking you very politely for
information and all you do is call me "quackpot."
This is what you wrote to Fay and cc'd to me:
> Do you know how hard it was to get that article
> in the Sacramento Bee? It is a huge victory
> for us.
I assumed from your having sent this to me that you intended that I read the
article. You did not, however, include a URL to the article or the title of
the article or the subject of the article. Because of this, I am unable to
locate the article.
Now, if it was indeed your intention that I read this article, would you
please provide me with any of the above so that I may indeed locate it and
read it? If it was not your intention, then I fail to see why you bothered
to send it to me. You don't seem to be trying to pursuade me to your
position; pursuasion generally involves warmth and welcome, not name
calling. I mean, did you suddenly suffer a shortage of people to insult?
____________________________________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz lauren@teachspace.org
Programs Coordinator
California Space & Science Center http://www.teachspace.org
#32
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:06:11 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
CC: "Fay Franklin"
Obtuse:
I'll relieve your agony...
You brought up the article about the little girl that
one of our people in Texas managed to place in the
Bee. The Bee has not previously been favorable to the
alternative health movement. But with careful
handling...
The rest is "Behind the Scenes in California," and is
about activities of the counter-movement to the NCAHF.
Do you drink rocket fuel? Or, is being intentionally
obtuse a prerequisite for being on the healthfraud
list?
Duh...
Tim Bolen
--- Lauren Eve Pomerantz
wrote:
> You're not being very helpful here. I'm asking you
> very politely for
> information and all you do is call me "quackpot."
>
> This is what you wrote to Fay and cc'd to me:
> > SNIP -------
_____________________________________________________________
> Lauren Eve Pomerantz
> lauren@teachspace.org
> Programs Coordinator
> California Space & Science Center
> http://www.teachspace.org
>
#33
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:15:59 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
CC: "Fay Franklin"
Minor quackpot:
You want to play in the big leagues? I can give you
your fifteen minutes of fame, with those you seem to
want to impress...
All you have to do is pass this message along to your
list.. Of course there's a risk for you. There's
that old adage about the king killing the bearer of
bad news. Nobody knows this yet. It's really,
really, really bad news for Barrett and company. The
worst.
Today in California we pushed Assembly Bill 827 (The
California Health Freedom Bill) through committee. It
is tabled for a few days while Committee Chairman
Assemblyman Gallegos affects a few minor changes.
Our bill (AB827)is co-sponsored by Conservative
Republican Steve Baldwin and Liberal Democrat John
Vasconcuellos. It is supported by both parties -
period.
My prediction is that California's passing of this
bill will be the domino effect for the rest of the
country.
Barrett and company won't like you telling his support
network about this...
Go ahead, risk it... It'll put you in the big
leagues. You now have inside information, from an
insider...
Tim Bolen
--- Lauren Eve Pomerantz
wrote:
> You're not being very helpful here. I'm asking you
> very politely for
> information and all you do is call me "quackpot."
>
#34
Subject: Re: Hi
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:23:04 -0800
From: "Fay Franklin"
Organization: Yes! Wealth!.net
To: ,
References:
1
Seems like Tim is jumping on you.
It seems the healthfraud guys have suckered you in, as they have
suckered in many, to believing what they profess.
Lauren, it is my personal opinion that that group truly wishes to
suppress bonafide tested protocols which work. I am often apalled when
they state "no studies have been published" about many effective
treatments. Many of those protocols have had lots of studies published,
and the protocol is simply not approved in the US. That does not make
the protocol quackery!
People blast Life Extension Foundation. They have funded lots of
studies related to neutraceuticals. This group does a great job in my
opinion. When they recommend any particular treatment protocol, they
include many references to studies which show the protocol to be
effective. The group also makes their members aware of non-US approved
pharmacological protocols which are effective and tell US and Canadian
residents how to gain access to treatment. How is that quackery? I
think it is quackery for a PhD in education to purport to be an expert
witness in nutrition!
Lambasting of people like Linus Pauling and the lack of double-blind
studies. I do not know if your education benefited from a mathematical
logic course. Thank goodness mine did. True story: one day when I was
about 12, I came home from school and at dinner, I asked my mom about
the logic behind double-blind clinical studies. I told her that they
made no sense to me. She stated to me that they had never made sense to
her either, but that she was a physical scientist and to go ask Pauling
and his researchers. After school the next day, I trotted to Pauling's
lab at Scripps' Institute of Oceanography. I put forth my question.
Everyone in the lab laughed. Pauling said to me something to the effect
of, "If we already know if we do nothing, x will occur, and we know that
if we do y, z will occur, how does it make any sense to do a study where
group a gets a placebo, and group b gets the new substance? Why do we
need group a?" Mathematical logic tells us we don't.
Pauling's cause of death: much ado is made about his reported cause of
death being "prostate cancer". And that if his vitamin C protocol were
so great, the fact that his diagnosis was when he was 70 and that he
lived until he was 93 means nothing. First, people with a diagnosis of
prostate cancer do not typically live 23 years. Secondly, media
typically reports the cause of death as what the attending physician
lists on the death certificate as the primary cause of death. In that
prostate cancer was the only previously diagnosed condition, this is
probably why it was used as the cause of death. My own mother was
killed by an over-zealous oncology intern who overdosed her with
digoxin, which I figured out, and we all tried to save her. We failed.
Her death certificate cites her cause of death as "endometrial cancer",
and that is what the media reported. The published cause of death bear
no resemblance to her true cause of death, as I imagine is the case in
Pauling's case.
Listen and learn from Tim, Lauren.
Take care,
Fay
#35
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:50:05 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To: "'Tim and Jan Bolen'"
You know, you could have saved yourself quite a bit of time by saying which
article at the offset. I know that you don't follow the list--Fay has
claimed to forward pertinent posts to you--but generally a dozen articles
are referenced each day.
What I don't understand is why searching for Burzynski (one of the terms I
originally used) doesn't return the article. It's only two days old. The
search from their home page found only two letters to the editor, one from a
Burzynski and the other commenting on the former. I had to do a seven-day
archive search to find the article.
#36
Subject: RE: Hi
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:52:33 -0800
From: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
To:
> Seems like Tim is jumping on you.
Tell me about it. This guy is a publicist, right? (I can't find anything
about the group he supposedly represents-"jurimed"-on the Web.) I've dealt
with a lot of PR people and they usually come across as open and supportive
and friendly. I know some of it is an act, because I got the same training
when I worked at the California Museum of Science and Industry, but most
people went into the field because they generally liked and wanted to work
with people. I've never met anyone in the field who thought it promoted his
ideas and the organization that he represented by name calling.
> It seems the healthfraud guys have suckered you in,
> as they have suckered in many, to believing what
> they profess.
What I believe is hardly their fault. I am the first person in my family in
four generations not to go to medical school. My mother won national
recognition in her field for her work on calcium, vitamin D, and hormone
therapy in the prevention of osteoporosis. My uncle is at the CDC working
on CJD. I was weaned on science.
> Lauren, it is my personal opinion that that group
> truly wishes to suppress bonafide tested protocols
> which work.
I don't think so. I think that they are more than willing to accept new
therapies providing that they've been adequately tested. I certainly am.
> I am often apalled when they state "no studies have
> been published" about many effective treatments.
> Many of those protocols have had lots of studies
> published, and the protocol is simply not approved
> in the US. That does not make the protocol quackery!
I've heard too much about how medicine is practiced and how research is done
in other countries to agree with you. When my parents visited China in the
mid-80s they saw bloodwork being left in open test tubes sometimes for up to
an hour before tests were done on the dissolved gasses. How can you
possibly get accurate results like this? In Japan, they met researchers who
were afraid of challenging what was known for fear of its being interpreted
as an insult to their teachers or the original researchers. Western Europe
is better, but sometimes their standards a more relaxed than ours.
> People blast Life Extension Foundation. They have funded
> lots of studies related to neutraceuticals. This group
> does a great job in my opinion. When they recommend any
> particular treatment protocol, they include many references
> to studies which show the protocol to be effective. The
> group also makes their members aware of non-US approved
> pharmacological protocols which are effective and tell US
> and Canadian residents how to gain access to treatment.
> How is that quackery?
I have no fundamental opposition to neutraceuticals. I am Jewish; we are
the chicken soup people. :) My opposition to neutraceuticals is the way
they are marketed in this country. There is no legal requirement of quality
control or dosage control. It is basically a crapshoot that you get what
you think you are getting. I am glad to see companies like Centrum and
One-A-Day begin to market herbals because once you decide to take something,
you ought to be able to know for certain what is in it.
On the other hand, I would like to see the herbal companies/alt.med
practitioners respond the way the pharmaceuticals/MDs do. Seldane used to
be THE antihistamine of choice. Suddenly it is realized that Seldane and
antibiotics can cause death. Boom, Seldane is off the market. How fast did
Redux and Fennfluramine go off the market? But chromium percolonate is
still be marketed for weight loss even though the studies that show it is no
better than placebo are six months old.
It is this sort of behaviour (popularity over efficacy) that makes people
think those who sell herbs are quacks.
> I think it is quackery for a PhD in education to
> purport to be an expert witness in nutrition!
The fact that someone was awarded a PhD in one subject does not mean that
they cannot become an expert in something else as well.
> Lambasting of people like Linus Pauling and the lack
> of double-blind studies. I do not know if your
> education benefited from a mathematical
> logic course.
I got logic from an engineering standpoint, a computer science standpoint,
and a philosophy standpoint. I have drawn so many truth tables in my life
it makes me ill to contemplate.
> True story: one day when I was about 12, I came
> home from school and at dinner, I asked my mom about
> the logic behind double-blind clinical studies.
> I told her that they made no sense to me.
> She stated to me that they had never made sense to
> her either, but that she was a physical scientist
> and to go ask Pauling and his researchers.
> After school the next day, I trotted to Pauling's
> lab at Scripps' Institute of Oceanography.
> I put forth my question. Everyone in the lab
> laughed. Pauling said to me something to
> the effect of, "If we already know if we do
> nothing, x will occur, and we know that
> if we do y, z will occur, how does it make
> any sense to do a study where group a gets a
> placebo, and group b gets the new substance?
> Why do we need group a?" Mathematical logic
> tells us we don't.
I agree assuming that we already know that Y causes Z. What if we don't
know? What if we just think? And what if what we think is correct is true
but we don't know why? I mean for centuries people have believed that
chicken soup cured colds and doctors ignored it. Then, finally, in the 80s,
a study was done. Obviously, it wasn't double-blind, but a comparison of
chicken soup, nothing, and I think hot water and tomato soup was done. It
was found that chicken soup was better than all the others. It turns out
that there is something (probably in the chicken fat) that breaks up mucous
better than any of the other substances. Had we just assumed that chicken
soup worked, we might have assumed other soups worked as well because we
didn't understand the mechanism.
How could we tell whether or not the Salk vaccine worked unless some people
got the placebo, some got the vaccine, and the statistics were run? Yes,
Salk's vaccine worked, but three previous ones did not, and even caused
polio.
And, finally, many times we are not doing double-blind studies to show that
something works better than doing nothing, but that it works better than
doing something else. In the end, it will not matter whether or not St.
John's Wort is an effective anti-depressant. What will matter is whether it
works better and with fewer side effects than what is currently available.
> Pauling's cause of death: much ado is made about his
> reported cause of death being "prostate cancer".
I think this is more ironic than something of scientific relevance, like Jim
Fixx dying of a heart attack. The truth is we don't know whether Fixx might
have died earlier had he not been so fit or later had he not been in the
habit of regularly straining his heart (he died while running).
I don't know whether or not vitamin C's effect on cancer has been researched
other than recent research which shows that antioxidants like vitamin C and
E can increase the rate of lung cancer in smokers. But the studies show it
has no effect on the length of or chance of getting a cold.
> Listen and learn from Tim, Lauren.
Tim, unfortunately, seems to be more interested in berating than in
teaching. I'm learning, alright, but not what he wishes I'd learn.
_____________________________________
Lauren Eve Pomerantz
lauren@teachspace.org
ICQ# 36460534
I shop for my favourite good cause at IGive.com
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#37
Subject: RE: [healthfraud] Burzynski
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:52:04 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
I'm accustomed to responding to quackpots from your
list) that seem, all, to be suffering from some sort
of mental defficiency that resembles aspects of metal
poisoning.
Tim Bolen
#38
Subject: Health Reality 2000
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:05:55 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
THE "LOUISVILLE SLUGGER" - Home Run Predicted...
Opinion by Tim Bolen
Thursday, January 13, 2000
UPDATE - The Hulda Clark Campaign
On the 29th and 30th of this month the Kentucky branch
of the Libertarian party will sponsor a two-day event
on behalf of the Hulda Clark campaign in Louisville,
Kentucky.
The Saturday, January 29th, 2000 program is an all-day
"Advanced Synchrometer Training" course conducted
personally by Dr. Clark and associates. There is
advanced sign-up, and a fee. Contact "The Dr. Clark
Research Association" at www.drclark.net, for sign-up
details.
The Sunday, January 30th, 2000 program is for the
general public and supporters are expected from around
the world. Sunday schedule - 9:00am to 5:00pm.
Proceeds for the event will go towards Dr. Clark's
Legal Defense Fund, and her Research.
The two-day event will be held at the Holiday Inn
South I-65, Exit 128, Fern Valley Road, Louisville,
KY, (502) 964-3311.
THE PUBLIC EVENT...
This is going to be an interesting event. The
Kentucky Libertarians are "out for bear" in
establishing their national party's stance for "health
freedom," for Election 2000, at this event. I applaud
them for it. As should we all.
I'm an Orange County California Conservative
Republican, and I want my own party to duplicate
the Libertarians stance, right now. At this time,
they are only doing so individually . There is no
doubt where Senator (and presidential candidate) Orin
Hatch stands on health issues. Dan Burton, from
Indiana, is an American hero. In California
Conservative Republican Assemblyman
Steve Baldwin is co-sponsoring AB827 (The California
Health Freedom Bill) with liberal Democrat John
Vasconcuellos.
But the Libertarians are leading the way, with their
national platform... Good for them...
The Kentucky Libertarian party advocates the complete
separation of medicine and state. They recognize the
individual's right to self-medication, and seek the
elimination of all government restrictions on the
right of individuals to pursue alternative forms of
health care. They believe that individuals should be
free to contract with practitioners of their choice
for all health care services.
The Libertarians opinion about health care appears to
be shared by the majority of the American population
which spent, in 1999, approximately 56.5% of its
health dollars on alternative forms of health care.
Virtually all of those dollars were "out-of-pocket" as
conventional medicine political forces have so-far
prevented payment of the fees of the much more
effective alternative health practitioners.
In their political platform, the Libertarians, a
significant national political party, are recognizing
a
national movement, that state by state, is demanding
"Health Freedom." Excellent organizations
have been formed, with major successes already
completed, or in progress. The Libertarians are
the first major American political party to recognize
the real issues in health care, and offer realistic
solutions.
THE CLARK CAMPAIGN...
The Clark campaign is far from over. There is still
the issue of the charges brought against Dr.
Clark in Brown County, Indiana for allegedly
"Practicing Medicine Without a License," allegedly
seven years ago. The trial, originally scheduled for
February 2, 2000, has been indefinitely
postponed by Circuit court Judge Heather Mollo, who
herself, has resigned from the bench, and
will be gone as of January 14th, 2000. A new
prosecutor has been appointed to handle the case,
and his first job will be to attempt, on February 8th,
2000, to defend against the Defense "Motion
To Dismiss," in front of the newly appointed judge
(who we don't know the name of yet).
We expect the case to be dismissed at that time, as
case law in Indiana shows that any defendant has the
right to a speedy trial. They prosecution never made
any attempt (for 6 * years) to serve any warrant
anywhere, and Dr. Clark was a resident of the United
States, with an address, a driver's license, a
telephone number, etc. She certainly was not a
fugitive in hiding, and had the prosecution desired to
proceed, could have done so in a reasonable amount of
time.
Currently, Dr. Clark is continuing her work at her
research facility in Tijuana, Mexico.
WHO, OR WHAT, IS BEHIND THE CLARK ATTACK?
There has been a lot of speculation about how this
ludicrous attack on Dr. Clark came to be. Although
there may have been other contributing factors, I
believe that earlier prosecutors (before prosecutor
James Oliver married Investigator Amy Hoffman) simply
saw no merit in the case. It is my theory that Amy
Hoffman (Oliver), as an Investigator, may have gone
through training provided by the Federation of States
Medical Boards (FSMB), which in itself is horribly
infected by it's relationship with the so called
National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF). Any
training Hoffman received at FSMB hands would have
prejudiced her against any, and all, alternative or
leading-edge practitioners. The FSMB openly
Characterizes all alternative practices as "health
fraud."
So far - The attack on Hulda Clark has backfired on
the opposition. The Clark case may just be their
"Waterloo." The NCAHF, a crackpot(?) organization
run out of the basement of a de-licensed MD in
Allentown, PA, has taken an active role to damage
Clark, and some say, all alternative health
practitioners. But, either they're not very good at
this campaign, or the
American public has had enough of their terrorism.
For, they're not doing very well in this case.
In fact their efforts have only served to focus health
freedom activists on the source of the overall
problem. Those activists, with new awareness, are in
turn, pointing the finger, and communicating quite
well, to their elected officials, and the media - a
combination which has proven to be extremely
effective.
In California, a state which has the reputation for
leading the nation in some kinds of social changes,
health freedom activists are winning some startling
victories. It is expected that the strategies they
have used, will be used, and improved upon,
nationwide, in the health movement.
Californians actively fought for the removal of the
NCAHF from their Loma Linda University address. The
activists won - thereby removing the NCAHF's ability
to intimate they had academic acceptance for their
medical buffoonery.
Governor Davis, who is listening to his constituents,
is refusing to renew the appointments of fourteen of
the existing eighteen Medical Board dinosaurs - and is
looking for a brand new board that will serve the
needs of the people.
AB827 (The California Health Freedom Bill) will be on
the floor of the legislature this year, and is
supported by both sides of the house.
SO WHAT'S THIS MEETING IN KENTUCKY ABOUT?
It's about Americans, acting like Americans...
See you there.
Tim Bolen
#39
Subject: Hulda Clark UPDATE
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:11:39 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To: "Bonnie O'Sullivan"
CLARK UPDATE:
To All Hulda Clark Supporters:
The Defense "Motion To Dismiss" hearing set for Feb 8,
2000, has been postponed at the request of the new
Prosecutor. He claims he is in a jury trial.
Tentatively, the hearing is set for March 7, 2000.
But don't count on it, for Defense Attorney Steve
Dillon has a trial ongoing at that time.
Regardless, the "Motion to Dismiss" hearing will be
held in front of the new judge, who will be seeking
re-election very soon - so we'll all be there with the
networks, and the newspapers, now won't we... See you
there...
Great article in "Indiana Today" magazine about Dr.
Clark this last Sunday - get more details to you
later.
Next chance to hear and see Hulda Clark in person -
Toronto, Canada, March 18, 19, 2000 at the Canadian
Consumer Health Organization event. More info coming
about this event.
After Sherry Clark's successful event in Louisville,
Kentucky, we're getting requests from all over the
country for Dr. Clark's appearance at health events.
We'll do the best we can.
Tim Bolen
#40
Subject: PRESS RELEASE - "Most Dangerous Woman" feted in Toronto
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:36:19 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To: "Kevin McHugh"
PRESS RELEASE - for immediate release
Contact - Tim & Jan Bolen - JuriMed - (949) 728-0838,
jurimed@yahoo.com
³Most Dangerous Woman in America² feted in Toronto...
Opinion by Tim Bolen
Chemotherapy and radiation industry CEOs canıt sleep
at night worrying about the research of Doctor Hulda
Regher Clark, Phd, N.D.. North American Oncologists
hesitate to buy that new yacht. Cancer hospital
administrators are counting the number of cars in the
parking lot, and wondering if theyıre going to be able
to make the lease payments on the Mercedes, next
month... Their so-called ³conventional medicine² has
lost the War on Cancer, and the American public is
turning away from them in droves. That public is
going where they get results, and they donıt give a
damn about industry protective ³scientific study²
procedures, that take eleven years to get a new
protocol through the pharmaceutical industry
controlled U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA).
Frankly, Itıs over for the conventional, and blatantly
ineffectual, mega-billion dollar, 55 year old cancer
industry - and industry critics say that one of the
big reasons is 71 year old medical researcher Hulda
Clark, the author of four blockbuster books, The ³Cure
For All Cancers,² The Cure For HIV/AIDS,² The Cure For
All Diseases,² and ³The Cure For Advanced Cancer.²
Hulda Clark, ³The Most Dangerous Woman in America - to
the medical establishment,² is the featured speaker at
³Total Health 2000" at the Metro Toronto Convention
Centre, North Building Upper Level, Saturday and
Sunday, March 18th, and 19th, 2000. Clarkıs speech
will begin at 3:00pm on Saturday. She will conduct a
seminar on Sunday. Forty-one other top North American
health humanitarians join her there.
Donıt miss this event.
Clarkıs basic theories embrace the simple common sense
idea that the human body heals itself if it is kept in
good condition. She believes, and proves in her
books, that virtually all diseases rampant in our
society today can be beaten one-on-one, and prevented,
by removing viruses, bacteria, toxins and parasites
from our bodies - and keeping them out. Thousands of
supporters, and success stories, world-wide, bear out
her theories.
Clark has been a researcher for over fifty years, most
in the United States University system. She retired
seven years ago from the University of Indiana, and
began her own research projects. She now operates a
research facility in Tijuana, Mexico directly across
the border from San Diego, CA. Her books are best
sellers in the health world - in the top 3% of books
sold on amazon.com.
Clarkıs worldwide popularity accelerated since she
was arrested September 20, 1999 in San Diego, CA by
the FBI on a fugitive warrant from Brown County,
Indiana. The arrest has become an amusing scandal in
Indiana after it was discovered that the prosecutor,
James Oliver, who issued the 1999 warrant, had
recently married the woman who investigated the case
seven years earlier, - and had failed to get earlier
elected prosecutors to pursue Clark. Oliver has since
been removed from the case - and the judge has
resigned. The investigator, Amy Hoffman Oliver, has
not yet been disciplined.
A dubious self-proclaimed consumer organization,
billing itself as The National Council Against Health
Fraud (NCAHF), and egotistically nick-naming itself
³The Quackbusters,² is believed to have a major
influence in the harassment of health humanitarian
Clark, and others. The NCAHF, current operation seems
to be run by one Stephan Barrett, a de-licensed M.D.,
out of his basement in Allentown, PA. The
³quackbusters² have long positioned itself as an
authority, without substantiation, on ³health fraud.²
They are known to accuse, virtually, every well known
non-drug leading-edge health practitioner in America,
including two-time Nobel prize winning Linus Pauling,
of ³quackery.²
Although leading-edge health professionals scoff at
the opinions of the NCAHF, Barrett, and his minions,
falsely give the impression to law-enforcement
agencies that they have some standing in the medical
community. They neglect to mention, for instance,
that they, as an organization, were evicted from Loma
Linda University in California, and ordered to no
longer use Loma Lindaıs name connected with their
bizarre operation. Critics, who helped get the NCAHF
removed from the campus, say that the quackbusters
used the address to give themselves an unwarranted
academic credibility.
The NCAHF, and its companion organizations, are
exposed in Doctor James Carter, MD, Dr Ph,ıs
exciting, well-written, and informative book,
³Racketeering in Medicine.² The only thing Carter
didnıt tell us is ³whoıs funding these people?²
Personally, I think its going to take a series of
search warrants, and a grand jury investigation to
find out.
If you canıt catch Hulda Clark in Toronto, donıt fret.
Her Team1 coordinators are booking her everywhere in
North America. They, as well as Clark, are determined
that the woman who has found a cure for cancer, not be
blocked, and that North America goes into the new
millenium without cancer...
Clark Team1 is also looking for other cases where the
NCAHF, its minions and fellow travelers, may have
attacked, or discouraged other non-drug protocols -
particularly where it can be shown that the NCAHFıs
activities caused the suffering and deaths of
Americans.
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#41
Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE - "Most Dangerous Woman" feted in Toronto
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:38:59 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To:
Quackpot:
Why don't you get a little more specific, and
broadcast your message out on your quackwatch list, so
I can add you to our "Nuremburg 2000" list for San
Diego?
Or maybe you'd like to borrow my media list? I
reached 360 million people last year, how about you?
Maybe, if you lack what it takes, you could get Mrs.
Barrett's little boy Stevie to write you up a
prescription for Viagra? Oops, I forgot, Pennsylvania
won't let Stevie "practice" any more...
One of my friends at one of the networks told me the
other day that I seem to be characterizing the
"quackpots" as sort of a "Keystone Kops Ku Klux Klan."
Ye--e-e-eah, close, but no cigar, yet...
Tim Bolen
--- John Stone wrote:
>
>
> Tim and Jan Bolen wrote:
>
> > If you canıt catch Hulda Clark in Toronto, donıt
> fret.
> >
>
> Don't fret indeed ... you'll be able to find her in
> Marion, Illinois for quite awhile.
>
> Look for the ugly broad with the pro-wrestler
> roommate and a number on the back of her shirt.
>
>
#42
Subject: Battleground: Toronto
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:15:30 -0800
From: "Tim and Jan Bolen"
To: "Lauren Eve Pomerantz"
PRESS RELEASE - for immediate release
Tim & Jan Bolen - JuriMed, (949) 728-0838
jurimed@yahoo.com
"BATTLEGROUND TORONTO" - Opinion by Tim Bolen
Some of the top forces in leading-edge health are
gathering March 18, 19, 2000 in Toronto, Canada.
30,000 people are expected to attend the event.
Featured speaker Hulda Regehr Clark, Phd, ND will be
joined by forty-one other renowned humanitarians. The
future of health in our society may just be displayed
right here in this two-day event.
This show represents the pinnacle of leading-edge
health care, and forward thinking, in the North
American health freedom movement.
We'll be there... So should you be.
In comparison - when the National Council Against
Health Fraud (NCAHF) held its big event this year in
Los Angeles, CA in conjunction with four of its sister
organizations, I hear their attendance was so poor you
could have held the whole thing in an airport
mini-bus, and still had room to transport people to
their hotels.
Here's what its all about...
Please forward the following important announcement
about Total Health 2000 to your friends and other
pertinent email groups:
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The Consumer Health Organization of Canada presents:
TOTAL HEALTH 2000
March 18 and 19, 2000 from 9 am to 9:30 pm
at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre
255 Front St. W., Toronto
With 42 international experts in the field of
alternative medicine including HULDA CLARK, author of
"The Cure for All Cancers" and a panel on GENETIC
ENGINEERING with Professor JOE CUMMINS.
Weekend Tickets: $40 at door; Single Day Tickets: $25
(discounts for advance sales and for members)
For information and tickets call 416-490-0986 or
toll-free 1-877-389-0996.
See full program information at our website
www.consumerhealth.org (click on Annual Total Health
Conv., then full info on Total Health 2000)
SYNOPSIS OF TOTAL HEALTH 2000 SPEAKERS
MARCH 18 and 19, 2000, 9am-9:30pm
Metro Toronto Convention Centre
255 Front Street West, Toronto
Majid Ali, MD
Fibromyalgia and CFS: Reversal of Dysfunctional Oxygen
Metabolism and Recovery
Sunday, 11:15 - 11:55, Room 206
Chelation Therapies: Oral and Intravenous Therapies
for Reducing Toxic Metal Overload and Heart Disease
Sunday, 2:15 - 3:10, Room 205
Elizabeth Abraham
You Can Improve Your Vision Naturally
Saturday, 2:30 - 3:10, Room 205
Learning to See More Clearly
Sunday, 9:30 - 10:25, Room 205
Philip Balcaen, ND
Detoxification
Sunday, 6:30 - 7:25, Room 202
Fred Bell, HMD, PhD
Rays of Truth and Crystals of Light
Saturday, 4:30 - 5:25, Room 202
Julianne Bien
Colour Dream Therapy
Saturday, 10:15 - 11:10, Room 202
Dean Bonlie, DDS
Bio-Magnetism
Saturday, 5:45 - 6:40, Room 205
Hulda Regehr Clark, ND, PhD
The Cure for All Advanced Cancers.
Saturday, 3:00 - 3:55, Room 206
Syncrometer Workshop
Sunday, 2:30 - 8:30 *Cost at door - $300. Non-paying
observers may be allowed at the rear of the room.
Michael Culbert, PhD
Medical Armageddon 2000: Integrative Medicine and
Promotive Health vs. the Modern Killer Diseases.
Sunday, 3:15 - 4:10, Room 205
Joe Cummins, PhD
Genetically Modified Foods and Crops: Are They Safe?
Saturday, 4:45 - 5:25, Room 206
Paul Cutler, MD
Will Intravenous EDTA Chelation Therapy Become
Obsolete?
Sunday, 12:00 - 12:55, Room 206
Gary Davis, MD
The Goat Serum Cure for Disease
Saturday, 10:15 - 10:55, Room 206
Sunday, 1:30 - 2:25, Room 202
Vincent DeMarco, MD
Medical Politics: Chelation Therapy Arrives in Ontario
Saturday, 9:30 -10:10, Room 206
Caron DeVita
Heavy Metals Syndrome
Saturday, 12:00 - 12:40, Room 202
Sunday, 3:15 - 4:10, Room 202
Catherine Diodati
Vaccines: Safety and Efficacy
Saturday, 11:00 - 11:40, Room 206
Vaccination: Ethics and Law
Sunday, 4:15 - 5:10, Room 205
Wally Dove, CGA
Are You a Free Person or a Voluntary Slave?
Sunday, 6:15 - 8:00, Room 205
Patrick Flanagan, ND
Hunza Water: The Microhydrin Story
Saturday, 1:15 - 2:10, Room 206
Sunday, 12:15 - 1:10, Room 205
Joe Hall
How to Neutralize the Negative Effects of
Electromagnetic Fields (EMF) on the Human Bio-Energy
Field - Saturday, 9:30 - 10:25, Room 206
Dennis Higgins, MD
The Antioxidant Truth Meter
Saturday, 2:15 to 2:55, Room 206
Sunday, 1:15 to 2:10, Room 205
Len Horowitz, DMD, MA, MPH
Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse
Saturday, 11:45 - 12:25, Room 206
Deadly Vaccines and the Coming Plagues
Sunday, 11:30 - 12:25, Room 202
Ben Kerr
The Cayenne Pepper Cocktail
Saturday, 9:30 - 10:10, Room 205
Sunday, 5:15 to 6:10, Room 205
Katrina Kulhay, BSc, DC
Healthy Alternative Remedies for Women (What your
Doctor Can't Tell You, or Doesn't Know.)
Sunday, 11:30 - 12:10, Room 205
Hardy Limeback, DDS
Fluoride and Dental Health after Fifty Years: A Review
of Current Risks and Benefits
Saturday, 4:00 - 4:40, Room 206
Sunday, 9:30 - 10:25, Room 202
Frank Ludde
The Ludde Protocol: Hope for the Hopeless
Saturday, 6:15 - 9:30, Room 202
Metabolic Therapy Workshop
Sunday, 5:00 to 8:00 *Room to be announced. *Cost at
door $250
Michael Lyon, MD
Attention Deficit Disorder: Effective Alternatives to
Worrisome Drugs
Saturday, 5:00 - 5:40, Room 205
Sunday, 10:30 - 11:25, Room 202
Nesa Lysander, DMS, DPH, MSc, MPhil, PhD, LFACHE
Prevention: The Path to Total Health
Saturday, 9:30 - 10:10, Room 202
Sunday, 3:15 to 3:50, Room 206
Rudy Minoot
Secretin: The Miracle Drug for Autism
Saturday, 12:45 - 1:40, Room 202
Geoffrey Morell, ND
Hands of Light: You Can Be a Healer
Saturday, 12:30 - 1:25, Room 205
David Olszewski, EE, IE
The Impact of Sunlight, Artificial Light and Full
Spectrum Lighting on our Health
Saturday, 11:00 - 11:40, Room 205
Introduction to the Practical Applications of Light
and Health Therapy in the Home or Clinic
Sunday, 12:30 - 1:25, Room 202
Paul Pantone
GEET...An Engine Whose Time Has Come.
Saturday, 5:30 - 9:30, Room 206
Geet Engine Workshop
Sunday, 4:00 - 9:00, *Extra cost at door
David Pesek, PhD
Tissue Cleansing and Fasting for Vitality and
Longevity
Saturday, 3:15 - 4:10, Room 205
The New Holistic Iridology
Sunday, 1:00 - 1:40, Room 206
Rodrigo Rodriguez
Cancer and Degenerative Diseases: an Alternative
Therapy Update
Saturday, 12:30 to 1:10, Room 206
Valerie Saxion, PhD
Oxygen Therapy
Saturday, 4:15 - 4:55, Room 205
Sunday, 10:30 - 11:25, Room 205
Irene Schoenfeld, CTS
Traumatic Incident Reduction
Saturday, 5:30 - 6:10, Room 202
Donald Scott, MA
The Neuro-systemic Diseases: The Linking Pathogen,
Mycoplasma fermentan
Saturday, 11:45 - 12:25, Room 205
The Physical Bases of Fibromyalgia, Myalgic
Encephalomyelitis and Multiple Sclerosis
Sunday, 1:45 - 2:25, Room 206
Gary Skillen
Saturday, 1:45 to 2:40, Room 202
Dowsing Feng Shui Dragon Lines
Fraser Smith, ND
Acupuncture: A Hands-on Demonstration
Saturday, 6:45 - 7:40, Room 205
James Solomon, DHC
Electromedicine and Pulse Technology
Saturday, 11:15 - 11:55, Room 202
Sunday, 10:30 to 11:10, Room 206
William Thomas
Unmasking the New Microbes: Origins, Characteristics
and Spread of the Stealth Organisms
Saturday, 2:45 - 3:25, Room 202
Sunday, 2:30 - 3:10, Room 206
Lorna Vanderhaeghe, BSc
The Immune System Cure: Optimize Immunity in 30 Days
Saturday, 10:15 - 10:55, Room 205
Balance, Don't Boost Your Immune System
Sunday, 2:30 - 3:10 Room 206
Darrell Wolfe
Reclaim Your Inner Terrain
Sunday, 4:15 - 5:10, Room 202
Gary Young, N.D.
How to Protect Yourself from the Aging of Chemical
Pollution with Essential Oils
Saturday, 1:30 to 2:25, Room 205
Increasing Longevity with Essential Oils
Saturday, 3:30 to 4:25, Room 202
PANEL DISCUSSION
Genetic Engineering and Your Food. What are the Risks?
In Whose Interests? Joe Cummins Helkie Ferrie GENE
ACTIONand Michael Khoo of Greenpeace Canada
Sunday, 4:00 - 5:25, Room 206
VIDEO - The Gene Takeover produced by the National
Film Board, Sunday, 5:30 - 6:30, Room 206
For information call Consumer Health Organization at
416-490-0986, or toll free at 1-877-389-0996
See full program info on our website
www.consumerhealth.org
or email helen@consumerhealth.org
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